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Tie Me Up! My collection of Vintage Neckties.

Christmas Necktie advertisement

Christmas time advertisement for Duffy-Powers store, Rochester, New York. Democrat & Chronicle, Pg. 7 December 18, 1930.

In 1992 I bought my first vintage necktie at a hospital rummage sale in Damariscotta, Maine. The tie dating from the late 1940s or early 1950s, has a bold design of polka dots in light tan, white and pale orange on a brown and celadon background. Costing only 10 cents, it was coming home with me. For many years it remained my only vintage necktie. Then I started to pick up more old ties, mostly from the 1940s, at local thrift stores. They were cheap (never more than $2.00) and they were colorful. It wasn’t until around 2007 that I started to concentrate on finding neckties from the 1920s and 1930s.

 

 

 

Common 1920s & 1930s Necktie Misconceptions

Wide neckties with bold designs over a solid color moire background date from the 1940s and 1950s. This is what people erroneously think 1920s or 1930s ties are like. A misconception readily apparent in the costume design of contemporary TV shows and movies set in the 1920s and 1930s. The Netflix series Damnation (2017) is set in the United States midwest of 1931. But some of the cast’s neckties date from the late ’40s or early ’50s.

 

1950's tie - Damnation

Cast member sporting a very nice early 1950s necktie, with a bold and colorful design. Image from Netflix.com

There’s a lot that the costume designers get right in the Amazon Prime series The Last Tycoon (2017). And most of the neckties seem to be from the 1930’s or are very, very close approximations. But sometimes they get it wrong as in the image below, showing a nice skinny tie from the late 1950s. They also make one very big mistake with some necktie jewelry, but more on that later.

 

The Last Tycoon (2017)

The 2017 Amazon Prime series The Last Tycoon. The gentleman in the back is wearing a skinny necktie, but it dates from the late 1950s and not the 1930s. Image from Amazon Prime.

 

1937 Botany Tie Advertisement

1937 Botany Tie advertisement. Esquire Magazine, September, 1937.

Common Necktie Characteristics

So what are the clues that can help you date a tie from between the two World Wars?

1: Lining; look at the back of the tie. The tie below does not have a lining. Most neckties made before the 1940s will not have one. The exception to the rule are expensive silk ties, they were either partially or fully lined.

2: Bell Bottom Flare; the part of the tie that hangs in back will usually flare out towards the bottom, like bell bottom trousers. Neckties from the mid-1920s and the late-1930s  have less flare than on ties from dating from around 1928 – 1936.

3: Width;  Most ties were on the narrow side. In the mid-1920s neckties were only 3 inches wide. The width started to increase by the end of the decade. By 1930 the width increased to 3 1/2 inches, it would continue to widen for the next couple of years reaching 4 inches by 1932. The Depression brought on conservative times and wide flamboyant ties must not have been proving popular as the width started to go back down to between 3 1/4 to 3 1/2 inches for the rest of the decade.

4: Length; necktie length of the 1920s & 1930s is short when compared to today’s ties. When knotted the bottom point of the tie is just below the sternum.  A vest was part men’s fashion so the length of the tie did not need to be long. Plus in the era before the Second World War seeing the bottom of a necktie was considered a fashion faux pas.

5: Design; stripes and plaids dominated necktie patterns between the World Wars.

6: Fabric; most neckties made in the 1920s and 1930s were: Rayon, cotton and wool. Silk dominated the more expensive tie market. While for more casual or sporty occasions knit ties were a good choice. In the 1920s one could even buy seersucker ties for summertime wear.

 

Unlabeled Plaid Necktie

An unlabeled wool, plaid necktie from the late 1920s.

 

Some of the Neckties in my Collection

1920s

 

1930s

Lansburgh's Store Shirt and Tie Ad, 1931

Lansburgh’s Store advertisement for shirts and ties. This ad shows how wide ties were getting in the early-1930s. Image from The Washington Post, January 31, 1931, Pg. 11.

Stripes

 

Plaids

 

Early-1930s Patterns

 

Mid – Late-1930s Patterns

 

Knits

 

 

Vintage Necktie Prices

What can you expect to pay for a vintage necktie? Prices will vary greatly. When buying a necktie from a thrift store (Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.) they should be in the $1.00 – $2.00 range. At a flea market expect to pay from $1.00 – $10.00. But at a good vintage clothing store or an antique or vintage clothing show the price goes up considerably. In these venues $20.00 – $50.00 is the general going rate for a nice 1920s or 1930s necktie in excellent condition.

 

Condition

A vintage necktie in excellent condition should last a good number of years. So before buying one, look it over carefully. Any wear and tear (shredding silk, rips, stains, etc.) will only get worse fast once you start to wear it. Rayon and silk neckties tend to wear out faster than wool or knit ties. Wool ties can suffer from moth damage. If the tie is inexpensive enough and the damage is in not too visible spot, buy it and enjoy it. But if you are going to spend over $20.00, the necktie should be in excellent condition.

 

 

 

Finishing Touches – Necktie Jewelry

While there aren’t many types of jewelry to accompany neckties, there are a few typical pieces one can and should wear with neckties. Starting from the top (neck) down (chest) –

1: Collar bar or collar clip. These clips attach to the collar bringing it in to frame the knot and also pushing it forward. Coming into popularity in the late-1920’s, use of collar bars started to wane by the late-1930s. They enjoyed a revival in the late-1970s through the early-1980s.

 

Collar Clips or Bars

These are my three go to collar clips. All made by Swank.

2: Tie Tacs: Tie Tacs are little pins, often topped with a pearl or gold ball that one pushes through the tie and fits into a back piece. The back piece usually is attached to a chain and bar. The bar goes through a button hole and if the two pieces separate, the bar in the button hole prevents it from falling. While very stylish, I personally do not like them as they put a hole in the tie, which is not good for nearly 100-year-old fabric.

 

Tie Pins.

Pearl topped tie pins.

3: Tie clip: This is exactly what it sounds like. It’s a clip that attaches the necktie to the shirt to hold it in place. In the 1920s and 1930s they did not have moving part and one just slides it onto the tie and shirt. Later ones (1950s and later) have a moveable clip on a hinge with teeth in the back that clamps onto the tie and shirt.

 

Tie Clips

My five favorite tie clips. The one at the top is from the 1933 Century of Progress Exposition in Chicago.

 

4: Cravat Chain: This is my favorite type of necktie clip. The clip portion attaches to the shirt under the necktie. Then the tie goes through the chain, which hangs down in front. Cravat chains usually have a fob with one’s initial(s). Sometimes they are souvenirs from a world’s fair or other tourist site.

 

Cravat Chains

Cravat chains. The the left one is a souvenir from the 1939 New York World’s Fair. The other two are from Swank.

 

Circa 1937 Swank ad

Swank advertisement, circa 1937. This ad shows the correct way to wear a cravat chain. Image from Pinterest.

How not to wear a cravat chain –

How not to wear a cravat chain

The incorrect way to wear a cravat chain. The clip should be attached to the shirt, not the tie. Image from the Amazon Prime series, The Last Tycoon.

 

Of course if you ever need vintage necktie inspiration or really want to know what was popular in the 1920s or 1930s, just watch a movie from back then or flip through an old magazine, it will be your best guide.

 

Anthony (One half of the Freakin’, ‘Tiquen’ Guys)

Rago 6 on the 15th

Rago 6 on the 15th? Say what!? I’ll clear up your confusion later on but first tell you about our adventure to Rago Arts and Auctions.

 

Located in Lambertville, NJ, Rago Arts and Auctions is a leader in international public and private auction sales. They appraise, buy and sell estates. The team also offer insurance evaluations and appraisals of personal property and estates.

This is where we come in.

We have wanted to attend an auction preview (I went once by myself) or one of the appraisal events for some time now. Unfortunately, both are usually on a Monday. Not exactly convenient for those of us who work and/or live out of state.

Anthony saw them advertising “appraisal day’ on Monday, July 15, 2019. As it so happened, we were both on vacation that week. With a two piece per person limit, we picked two pieces of art on which we wanted more information. High Society is a very large lithograph. And the second is an oil painting by Langtved-Jensen, dated 1918.

I went to the website and found that art had to have pictures, measurements, etc., submitted prior to the event. AND you had to make an appointment to reserve a time. Eagerly, I went into the site calendar. AND… everything was booked.

Undaunted, we debated what we could bring. Although we only have a few thousand items to choose from, we ultimately picked a vase made in France and a painted wood, art deco box.

 

On the day of the appraisals we made it a point to arrive early. Apparently other people had the same idea and there was quite a line developing. After signing in, we took our place in line.

The staff was incredibly organized and nice. People with appointments were called quickly and as lines inside moved, so did we. After a relatively short wait, it was our turn to go inside. And wait on another line. Here again, organization reigned with each person directed to a specific queue to see the professionals. In theory, each person is given 10 minutes with the experts. In theory, you need an appointment for art work appraisals!

More on that later.

 

Our turn came. The French vase is from the Limoges region in the early part of the 20th century. Not made by THE Limoges, but in the general region. Value? $40.00. Not bad, I only paid $18.00.

We had more hope for the painted wood, art deco box. A pity buy from a woman who was just opening an “antique” store, we liked it and it was only $20.00. Online research by Anthony has it attributed to Paul Frankl. Anthony could not prove this connection and hoped to find out once and for all. A quick online search by the expert and she found the same information. In her opinion, she doubted the connection to Paul Frankl but thought it was a nice decorative piece. Accurate to the deco period, she valued it at $175.00-$200.00.

 

Now, as for making an appointment for an art appraisal, we watched several people walk in and easily accommodated by the excellent staff. The funniest was a couple stating they were “driving by” and had “no clue” it was appraisal day and “just happen” to have two Currier & Ives lithographs, perfectly wrapped, with them. Me thinks I smell a fish!

Anyway, as I live so close to Lambertville, we decided to drive back to my house and pick up the High Society lithograph and the Langtved-Jensen painting. And since there were two of us, we also brought a couple of recently acquired Trenton Potteries pieces.

Back at Rago Arts late, but with time to spare.

 

Purchased at a second hand / antique store, Treasures From The Attic  in Southampton, NJ, for $95.00. High Society has a clouded history. Although signed Sané 28 in the border, there is no evidence of it designed or produced in that year. It’s actual production date is circa mid 1950’s. A popular and stylish image, 1980 reproductions are printed on high gloss paper with the outside border removed. Or, reproduced with the border but with the signature removed. I thought my poster was an earlier, more valuable, version and was thrilled to have the expert agree. She estimated the value at $600.00-$700.00. It garnered a lot of attention and admiration from other attendees.

 

I purchased my mystery painting at the GoodWill for $9.99. H.C. Langtved-Jensen is a (barely) known artist. The expert had difficulty finding anything on him. Based on the my research, she did find one of his paintings, Flower Garden, but was not able to give me more information.

 

1914 painting by H.C. Langtved-Jensen (photo via www.artnet.com)

1914 painting by H.C. Langtved-Jensen (photo via www.artnet.com)

She noted my painting was an unusual subject and style and would be a hard sell. She asked why I purchased it.

I told her I like it. Although dated 1918, it stylistically reminds me of the WPA/FAP period. I asked if it could be a study for a larger work. She agreed that the style and subject did lend itself to that theory. If it is, and I can link it to some sort or mural or public work, the value would increase. As it stands, she estimated the value at $100.00-$200.00.

 

 

Anthony had a stroke of pure luck. Pulling out the two vases, the appraiser immediately recognized them. He told Anthony that their expert on Trenton Potteries Co. was here, and available. He called over Thomas Rago, cousin of David Rago, founder of Rago Arts and Auctions.

 

Anthony explained we were having difficulty finding any information on the company. As it happens, Mr. Rago is not only an expert on their wares but literally wrote the book on them! He couldn’t have been nicer.

 

The vases are part of the modernistic line. The Crossley Vase featured in our earlier post, Weekend Finds – Spring 2019, is part of this same line. He informed us that although all Trenton Potteries (and most pottery in general) values have declined, this line retained a better value than most. The first vase, Rhythm,  glazed in Venetian Blue and the other, Orbit, in Gloss White appraised for a total value around $90.00. I paid $75.00 at the Golden Nugget Flea Market. He informed us that he had a small antique store, Lawrenceville Vintage Treasures, in Lawrenceville, NJ.  His autographed book on Trenton Potteries Co. is available for sale at his store.

Ironically, we were in Lawrenceville a few days earlier and unknowingly went to his store. But it was closed. Guess where we went the next day, what we bought and who we met? Well, two out of three isn’t bad. Mr. Rago was not there but we did meet his lovely wife and co-owner, Donna Rago. She was as charming and nice as her husband.

In all, we have to say thank you, Rago for appraising our 6 pieces on the 15th of July. Get the title now?

 Happy Hunting!                                                                                                                                     Chris & Anthony (The Freakin’ ‘tiquen Guys)